Ecosystems Podcast
Cloud ecosystems built on strategic foundations create the conditions to absorb successive waves of change
Ecosystems is the collaboration of Mark Smith (LinkedIn | Twitter), Ana Demeny (LinkedIn | Twitter), Chris Huntingford (LinkedIn | Twitter), Will Dorrington (LinkedIn | Twitter), and Andrew Welch (LinkedIn | Twitter). We’re enabling the global Microsoft community to build vibrant cloud ecosystems across Azure, Power Platform, Fabric, M365, and D365.
Technological advancements in this space are now moving on timelines that in some instances can be measured in weeks. Not months. Not years. But weeks. This both accelerates and is accelerated by the shift to ecosystem-oriented architecture and the adoption of artificial intelligence. In other words, getting the platform ecosystem right in an organization is both necessary to creating the greatest likelihood that the organization can absorb rapid change, whilst simultaneously creating the conditions that drive rapid innovation forward. Your cloud ecosystem is the catalyst for your future-ready organization.
But the IT industry faces a major challenge in that too many people and organizations are focused on the wrong things. Or, to be more precise, too many organizations have misallocated their focus, prioritizing workload implementation either at the expense of or out of ignorance to architecting strategic foundations, building the platform ecosystem, and creating the conditions for success. Too much energy remains focused on building apps ‘n stuff, and not enough energy is devoted to accelerating the building of apps ‘n stuff in an exponential way.
With organizations today using 200-300 applications, what will be the impact on users when a profusion of AI solutions are added to the pile? As vendor AI offerings continue to expand, imagine the confusion. Employees required to access multiple agents with multiple UIs, stored sporadically across their organization: an agent for HR relations, sales, service, and for vendor applications, the likes of Workday, SAP, Salesforce. A labyrinth of applications. Now imagine this simplified. Imagine all the isolated agents and their data integrated into a single UI, a single place of reference, giving clarity, accessibility and enabling high adoption. As announced by Satya Nadella, Copilot is positioning to become the new UI for AI.
In the dawn of ‘agentic’ AI, that is to say, autonomous bots capable of mimicking humans and independent decision-making, what will be the implications for our every lives? Perhaps an end to dreaded call centre dispute resolutions, instead replaced by bots tackling negotiations perfectly due to having instant access to undisputable contracts and policies, outmatching human agents. For e-commerce, AI assistants capable of re-ordering groceries online, exploiting the best discounts, fastest delivery, and lowest shipping costs, totally disrupting traditional e-commerce loyalty. Future AI has the potential to make daily life incredibly efficient and transform consumer engagement models in ways not yet fully realised.
Staggeringly, if cybercrime were a country, it would have the 3rd largest GDP. With attacks happening every second, it’s never been more important to approach data security and AI with a zero-trust mindset: practicing insider risk-management, auto-classifying data with Purview, and “red teaming” AI outputs. This critical thinking should apply to future advancements also, as we predict a shift towards observability whereby AI handles tasks and humans merely monitor them. Plus, as AI begins to mimic personas and styles, the risk of deep fakes increases, unbeknownst to users unless questioned. Staggeringly, if cybercrime were a country, it would have the 3rd largest GDP. With attacks happening every second, it’s never been more important to approach data security and AI with a zero-trust mindset: practicing insider risk-management, auto-classifying data with Purview, and “red teaming” AI outputs. This critical thinking should apply to future advancements also, as we predict a shift towards observability whereby AI handles tasks and humans merely monitor them. Plus, as AI begins to mimic personas and styles, the risk of deep fakes increases, unbeknownst to users unless questioned.
As AI systems become more integrated into our daily lives, it’s never been more critical to ensure they operate ethically. There are significant risks if not governed properly through informed practices, making responsible app development not just a necessity, but a cornerstone for building trustworthy AI systems that adhere to ethical standards and regulatory requirements. When an organization upholds this commitment, it not only mitigates potential harms but also fosters trust among users and stakeholders, thereby establishing the foundations for long-term success.
the Power Platform: Why Free is not Cheaper.” Get a behind-the-scenes update on the current and upcoming “Learn” courses, and hear from the authors about the insights behind the first verticalized view of Ecosystem-Oriented Architecture in the Public Sector, as well as the exciting release of the new AI Strategy Framework.
Is the business value toolkit simply “another tool” attempting to explain away a leader’s decision-making in some quantifiable fashion; freeing them from the responsibility of taking action in the absence of data?
Or, does it provide a true measurement of impact, helping IT tell a compelling story of ROI? Aligning with the organization’s concepts of what “true value” means to them?
“So, here’s this company that has gone to the legal trouble to rename itself with ‘AI’ in the name, but doesn’t actually know what the thing it’s now named after is.”
There’s such extraordinary noise around AI right now, but this comes with a big dose of snake oil where every company is suddenly claiming to be an AI expert. How do organizations navigate the maze and separate the real from the hype?
Every organization on the planet ought to be thinking through its game plan for AI. But is AI on the radar of people and organizations outside the tech industry? Many have tried a proof of concept, but many have not progressed beyond that. How do we uncover scenarios where AI can really help an organization?
It’s very difficult to build a data platform today that reaches its full potential without also building Power Platform into that data platform. Power Platform’s greatest value lies not in the app, but in the data the app collects or serves back to its users. Power Platform isn’t an app phenomenon. It’s a data phenomenon. Apps are only so useful if you’re not able to use them with your organization’s data. Andrew’s new Microsoft white paper articulates so clearly—from simple to advanced—the five patterns of data integration between Power Platform and a modern data platform backed by Azure data services and Microsoft Fabric.
Ana’s and Andrew’s two-year-old prefers Ms. Rachel to the Ecosystems Show, but we’re pressing on this week answering questions that we didn’t have time to get to during our recent live panel show at the DynamicsMinds conference. How important is Copilot in the cloud ecosystem? How do you define the boundaries of an ecosystem? Is it vendor-specific? What do we need to do to be ready for AI? Where’s the best place to start with tooling and techniques needed to build an ecosystem? More!
The Ecosystem Show comes out swinging against Ryanair, and then talks tech for this special in-person recording at DynamicsMinds 2024 in Portoroz, Slovenia 🇸🇮! Join us as we survey the Microsoft cloud technology landscape with reflections from this great conference, talking ecosystem architecture, the modern data platform, AI agents, and other announcements from Microsoft Build.
Is the age of IT partners implementing software via the venerable “IT project” over? As our tech moves faster, is the tyranny of the deliverable making traditional IT projects more and more obsolete? Many consultancies are out there trying to deliver technology using a 30-year-old “project-based” model, just as many customers are still accepting (or even seeking!) this fundamentally outdated way of doing business.
Is cloud technology generally and the Microsoft Cloud specifically evolving differently in economies with different populations? The world is much bigger (or smaller?) than the United States and Europe, so what does that mean for technology? How does geographic and population variation—and different dynamics in business culture—impact cloud ecosystems around the world?
Join Mark Smith, Andrew Welch, and Will Dorrington as they take on “anchor apps”, the essential large-scale applications crucial for organizational operations, known in ecosystem-oriented architecture as “core business systems”. These apps or “workloads” are significant, particularly compared to the many, smaller apps that are bought off the shelf or developed using tools like Microsoft Power Platform. The hosts share several of their favorite examples encountered over their time working with Power Platform across sectors and geographies, including anchor apps responsible for transportation logistics, evidence collection in law enforcement, and in military operations. Despite their importance, there’s a noted lack of recognition for anchor apps developed on platforms like Power Platform or Azure, often amidst a fragmented tech landscape that leads to underutilized premium licenses. The conversation underscores the need to better recognize and leverage anchor apps to showcase the strengths and return the big value of low-code platforms.
Between the imagined threat of murderous toasters, the next horizon of artificial general intelligence (AGI), and deep, straight talk about the societal displacement that AI might wrought, this is by far the most reflective and philosophical Ecosystems podcast yet. It's likely true that AI will, in the end, create far more jobs than it takes, but what is true at a macro-level can be absolutely life-destroying at an individual or community level. Are we ready? Is society ready for the displacement of the next big industrial revolution? Are we ready to leave that which is comfortable in search of more fish? Are our governments ready? Will we recognize the innate dignity in those who don't win this particular round of fabulous technological achievement?
Join us Mark, Andrew, Ana, and Chris as they explore the roles of solution architects and enterprise architects in the cloud landscape. We delve into the difference between the two roles and the challenges faced by enterprise architects in assembling technology across different product families. The discussion also touches on the concept of being technology agnostic (or not) and the importance of educating enterprise architects. The conversation highlights the need for Microsoft to provide more targeted content and frameworks for enterprise architects, particularly in the Power Platform and Azure ecosystems.
Did the original positioning of Power Platform as a “low-code” or “citizen developer” tool do a massive disservice to the enterprise nature of the Power Platform itself? Are big organizations that have signed Power Platform into enterprise agreements with Microsoft looking at downsizing their investment because they don’t understand—and have not put to work—the Power Platform’s capability as an enterprise-scale application and data platform? So, why aren’t more engineers, architects, and IT leaders maximizing it as the enterprise platform that it really is?
Do innovative technologies need to move out of IT in order to thrive, or do we need to move governance and security out of IT and into facilities management as our “workplaces” have become increasingly tech-centric? There is a difference between achieving an acceptable level of security and governance vs. having a forward-looking strategy that is going to grow the business, return investment to the business, modernize the business, or make the business more productive.
How do I build and execute a roadmap and strategy? Not a high-level business strategy that organizations typically receive, but one that actually bridges the gap between business outcome and business value that can be achieved in the cloud. How do I execute this plan, and what are the dots to connect in achieving these outcomes? Why are more organizations not doing so? The Ecosystems Podcast welcomes James Joyce, our first (but not last) ever guest.
How do you have AI conversations with CTOs, CIOs, CDOs, and others in technical or business leadership roles? What do I need to be thinking about for my organization, particularly while “every man and his dog” are publishing their own AI content? It’s overwhelming right now.
Organizations have a lot of work to do in pursuing their AI aspirations in a strategic way, and importantly, to correct some of the mistakes they’ve made kicking the (data) can down the road for the last thirty years. This episode dives into the five pillars set out in the recent Microsoft + Cloud Lighthouse white paper, Crafting your Future-Ready Enterprise AI Strategy, as we help organizations become “future ready” for the AI we understand today and the AI capabilities that are coming in the very near future. The hosts discuss the preparation for artificial intelligence in 2024. They highlight the importance of data consolidation, governance, and the use of AI tools for quick wins. The conversation also touches on the practical applications of AI in daily life and the need for AI to be infused into all aspects of work. The hosts explore the excitement and optimization potential of AI, as well as the legal and ethical considerations surrounding its use. They discuss the challenges of demonstrating AI reasoning and the balance between AI advancements and regulations.
The Ecosystems podcast starts 2024 with a big announcement and a discussion of Andrew’s new Cloud Lighthouse + Microsoft white paper, Crafting your Future-Ready Enterprise AI Strategy. The paper addresses the need for organizations to take a strategic approach to implementing artificial intelligence (AI) and highlights the importance of data readiness. We emphasize the distinction between incremental AI, which brings efficiency to existing tasks, and differential AI, which represents groundbreaking advancements. The white paper also discusses the role of low code in scaling AI and the need for consistency in data access and rights, so we dig into that a bit in this episode. The conversation concludes with appreciation for the valuable insights provided in the white paper.
Complete with twinkling lights, baubles, questionable sweaters, gnomes, and patriotic Christmas stockings: Mark, Andrew, Ana, and Chris celebrate the holidays and the year’s last episode of the Ecosystems podcast. Together we explore AI's practical business applications, our takes on the recent chaos at Open AI, and our thoughts on a great listener question. Microsoft Ignite is just weeks behind us, so we close out the year sharing our favorite Christmas gifts from Microsoft, new or now generally available tech that has us really excited.
Chris, Ana, Mark, Andrew, and Will take on the crucial role of data in technology and business strategies, and in building cloud ecosystems that reflect those strategies. We’re seeing a bit transition in technology where data ought to be prioritized over individual applications within an ecosystem... but many organizations, their technology partners, and individual technology practitioners have been slow to adjust their thinking to this paradigm. They critique common practices in organizations where data is often neglected, leading to inefficiencies and missed opportunities. The episode highlights the need for a data-centric approach in technology development and organizational planning, underscoring the value of data quality, integration, and management.
Establishing strategic foundations for the business of modern technology is essential for long-term success. Neglecting ongoing planning can lead to problems. Adapting to changing technology landscapes and evolving technology leadership roles are crucial, and aspiring cloud ecosystem architects need a strong foundation, adaptability, and specialized roles in organizations managing technology ecosystems. Join us as we banter on.
This fourth episode of the Ecosystems podcast dives into “building the platform ecosystem” as we discuss integrated landing zones and unified data languages in cloud platforms, promoting people-centric tech dialogues, and the idea of institutional data models to accelerate app dev and normalize transactional data throughout the ecosystem. This strategy eases tech adoption to spur organizational growth in the cloud. It underscores tool encapsulation, cultural respect, proactive leadership, and promotes organizational learning and adaptability. Success in tech demands technical skills, storytelling, change management, continuous learning, and crucial consulting support for knowledge transfer and project success… so we finish with our recommendations for technology practitioners seeking to modernize their own skills for the ecosystem era.
We’re focused on the “Strategic Pyramid” for the cloud in this episode of the Ecosystems podcast. Touching on the complexity of workload implementation, we then delve into the concept of “creating the conditions for success”. This pyramid looks at the depth of layers when building a cloud ecosystem, and explores how technology functions within organizations. The focus shifts towards creating the right conditions for success rather than just implementation. We then discuss the importance of evolving from governance to strategy and conclude that without proper governance, organizations are destined for failure.
Are you ready to level up your tech game? Tune in as our expert co-hosts Ana Demeny, Andrew Welch, Chris Huntingford, and William Dorrington dive deep into the intricacies of technology strategy and implementation. From ensuring your projects thrive in larger ecosystems to the significance of balancing expertise and wisdom, this discussion sheds light on the evolving landscape of tech. Join us in this thought-provoking conversation where we explore the transformation from being experts in a field to wise decision-makers in tech. Don't miss out on the valuable insights shared by our panelists!
Mark Smith, Ana Demeny, Andrew Welch, Chris Huntingford and William Dorrington launch the Ecosystems podcast. We delved into the Microsoft Cloud Ecosystem and discussed topics from missed innovation opportunities to the significance of embracing technological advancements. The conversation provides insights into the evolving nature of technology adoption, the potential consequences of not staying current, and the varying perspectives on navigating the complexities of the technological landscape.